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John Kiriakou's Dead Drop

S1E4 Good Spies, Bad Endings

John Kiriakou's Dead Drop

Costard & Touchstone Productions

Travel, Personal Journals, Torture, Secret Agents, History, Spies, Documentary, Spying, Secrets, Cia, Espionage, Heroism, Society & Culture

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

THE BLURB: Among the things that make spies tick is fear. Fear of being caught - and then tortured and/or killed. Stories like Beirut Station Chief Bill Buckley's are what keep spies like John Kiriakou up at night. Buckley came to the CIA from the US Army where he was a highly decorated special forces officer. Once recruited by the CIA, Buckley served successfully in places like Cambodia, Egypt and Pakistan. Beirut was another story - a difficult one filled with questions.



SHOW NOTES

You can find Fred Burton and Samuel Katz's Beirut Rules here -

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31019046-beirut-rules?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wsCKRCuTSK&rank=1


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Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast, it's a Costerton Touchstone production.

0:04.0

Welcome to Dead Drop, What Makes a Spy Tick.

0:13.0

I'm John Kiriaku.

0:15.0

Before we get down to it, I want to ask a small favor.

0:18.0

That is, if you're enjoying the podcast. If that's the case,

0:22.1

we would really appreciate it if you'd share that fact, with people you know, but also with

0:27.2

the platform on which you listen to Dead Drop. When you like, subscribe to, review, positively,

0:33.4

of course, and or comment on the podcast, it helps more people find it.

0:38.1

Your recommendation really does matter.

0:40.2

It's a little like having your work show up in the president's daily brief.

0:44.2

One of our goals with Dead Drop is to give you the deepest possible perspective on the world of

0:49.3

spying and what makes any spy tick.

0:52.3

It's like living life with an additional layer to it, a layer only you

0:56.8

and a handful of other people know about. Understandably, therefore, a significant influencer

1:02.5

of any spy is other spies, and what happened to them as a result of their spying? The perils are

1:10.0

always part of a spy's internal calculus.

1:12.6

That is, the perils we know about and the perils we don't. Those are the ones that will invariably bite you.

1:19.6

In this episode, we're going to take a momentary break from what makes this spy tick to explore a spy whose story always spoke to me personally. William

1:30.2

Francis Buckley's story always, well, it fairly shouted at me. Bill Buckley, you see, was a very

1:36.6

good spy who came to a terrible ending, and it didn't have to be. For a spy, Bill's story

1:42.8

is a valuable object lesson. Knowing his story and his

1:46.4

fate were essential elements of how I understood my working environment. I knew Bill's story.

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