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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S1E29 / A Magic Bullet? Monoclonal Antibodies / James Crowe

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

KFF Health News and Just Human Productions

Science, #Coronavirus, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox, Documentary, #Covid19, #Sarscov2, #Eradication, Life Sciences, Society & Culture, #Covid, Medicine

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

"In our case, we're trying to transfer an antibody from one person to another. And it's actually a simpler idea because the recipient of an antibody RNA does not have to really respond to it. They just make it, and they have instant immunity." -Dr. James Crowe In today’s episode, our host Dr. Celine Gounder speaks with Dr. James Crowe, Director of the Vaccine Center at Vanderbilt Medical Center, about the next phase in antibody-based therapies, which is being spearheaded by Dr. Crowe’s lab at Vanderbilt. They are working on a technique to manufacture immunity in a test tube by isolating a single antibody for a disease that can be used to specifically target and fight that disease. They talk about the upcoming clinical trials of monoclonal antibodies for treatment of COVID-19, and how this method differs from convalescent plasma and vaccination. Finally, they discuss the next frontier- how science may soon take us beyond drug treatments and into a realm where our bodies are programmed to defeat a virus before we’ve ever encountered it… a true magic bullet. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

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0:00.0

I'm Dr. Saline Gounder and this is epidemic.

0:17.0

Today is Tuesday June 16th. The The Shenley Labritories,

0:35.0

of Shenley Laboratories,

0:37.0

producer of Penicillin Shenley and Shenley Pharmaceuticals

0:41.0

presents the Enore theater.

0:44.0

Back in the 1940s, you could tune into radio dramas about the lives of famous medical scientists,

0:50.0

Louis Pasteur, Florence Nightingale, and Paul Erlich.

0:54.0

The Encore Theater Play Tonight, Dr. Erlich's Magic Bullet.

1:00.0

Paul Erlich was a German scientist in the early 20th century.

1:06.0

He worked with Dr. Emil Bering, the Nobel Prize winning scientist who developed convalescent plasma.

1:12.0

The treatment we talked about last Tuesday in our series

1:15.6

of episodes on immunology.

1:17.5

The immunity is not a quality of the blood, but something in the blood, specific substances that are formed by the cells a chemical army which destroys bacteria and poisons

1:28.6

I'm beginning to see what you're getting at

1:31.0

This chemical army earlix talking about would end up being antibodies. Remember convalescent plasma or serum is when you take blood from someone immune to a virus or bacteria and give their antibody rich blood to another patient to help

1:44.8

them fight off the disease. The play based on Ehrlich's life has everything.

1:49.2

Suspense. A trial would bring everything into the open.

1:53.0

It would be the finish of Erlich in his so-called specific.

1:56.0

Science?

1:57.0

Do you see them, Emil?

1:58.0

Of course I see them.

1:59.0

The red rod-like shapes are the tuberco-basilai.

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