S1E16 / Good and Bad Bosses / Adam Grant, William Kassler, Katie McGrath
EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder
KFF Health News and Just Human Productions
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2020
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Dr. Saline Gounder and this is epidemic. |
| 0:07.9 | I'm Dr. Saline Gounder and this is epidemic. |
| 0:13.0 | Today is Friday, May 1st. |
| 0:18.5 | On this episode of the podcast, we're looking at work in the time of coronavirus. These are unprecedented times for workers and their bosses, |
| 0:26.4 | and so we thought who better to help us talk through the good and the bad of work during the pandemic |
| 0:31.9 | than Adam Grant. |
| 0:33.4 | Welcome back to the podcast, Adam. |
| 0:35.7 | Thank you. |
| 0:36.7 | It's great to be back. |
| 0:37.7 | Adam is a professor at the Wharton School |
| 0:39.6 | at the University of Pennsylvania. |
| 0:41.5 | He spoke with us back in March about how organizational |
| 0:44.4 | psychology could help convince people to follow social distancing and other |
| 0:48.6 | health guidelines. Adam and I were talking a while back about which companies were really rising to the occasion |
| 0:54.9 | and doing a good job of taking care of their employees in the time of COVID and which weren't. |
| 1:00.0 | So Adam, what do you think makes for a good leader in a crisis like this? |
| 1:04.0 | I think every leader, unfortunately, is having to make some tough choices right now. |
| 1:08.5 | And so when I think about how companies can handle this kind of crisis well, I think about a question of justice. |
| 1:16.0 | When we study justice, it actually turns out there are three kinds of justice that really matter in a hard situation, |
| 1:22.0 | like the pandemic crisis. |
| 1:23.7 | The first one is distributive justice, |
| 1:25.7 | which is basically trying to make choices |
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