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The Expert Witness from Uncover

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E4: Saving Mom

The Expert Witness from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.510.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Pauline is struggling with doubts — the details of her family’s secret seem outrageous. But why would Stan and her mother lie to her? Pauline sets up a sting to find out once and for all if Stan and Ruth are telling the truth. And what she discovers changes her relationship with Ruth forever. Pauline, desperate to reconcile what Ruth has done to her, turns to understanding her mom’s troubled past. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-transcripts-listen-1.6682766

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0:00.0

I'm 22 years old, I'm opening the door, I'm mowing, mowing the dead body.

0:04.4

I'm Phil Martino.

0:05.6

And I'm Madison Fitzpatrick.

0:07.4

In season one of Tracking a Killer, the cold case files we delved into decades-old murders

0:12.2

that have never been solved.

0:13.6

This season we are back with more cases and more families looking for answers.

0:18.1

How could somebody just leave somebody there like that?

0:20.3

Listen, to Tracking a Killer, the cold case files on the Frequency Podcast Network or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:27.5

Find your frequency.

0:31.5

This is a CBC Podcast.

0:34.2

This episode contains strong language, difficult subject matter, and references to suicidal ideation

0:40.7

and intimate partner violence. Please take care.

0:59.9

I don't know how many years it was before you told me the story, do you?

1:03.5

I went to MITV late in 1988 and I told you the story in 1991.

1:12.9

So two and a half to three years?

1:18.8

That's a long time.

1:20.4

To not tell me something because we were close.

1:24.4

I mean, we spent virtually all our free time with our husbands and each other.

1:36.5

That's okay.

1:37.3

I was trying to have a life.

1:38.9

Yeah, you were trying to have a life and you needed to be ready.

1:41.9

You needed to be ready to do something about it.

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