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The Expert Witness from Uncover

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E1: Don't Tell

The Expert Witness from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.510.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

It’s 1971 and Ruth Dakin is going through a messy divorce and fears for the future of her young children, Pauline and Ted. She meets Stan Sears, a United Church Minister, a man who offered comfort and safe harbour. But the encounter would change her life – and the lives of her children – forever. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-transcripts-listen-1.6682766 Soon, odd, unexplained things start to happen and the young family is suddenly on the run, uprooted from their cozy home in North Vancouver to Winnipeg and then eventually to New Brunswick. The children are told not to tell anyone, and there are no goodbyes — not even to their father. Also on the move? Stan and his wife Sybil.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm 22 years old, I'm opening the door, I'm mowing, mowing the dead body.

0:04.4

I'm Phil Martino.

0:05.6

And I'm Madison Fitzpatrick.

0:07.4

In season one of Tracking a Killer, the cold case files we delved into decades-old murders

0:12.2

that have never been solved.

0:13.6

This season we are back with more cases and more families looking for answers.

0:18.1

How could somebody just leave somebody there like that?

0:20.3

Listen, to Tracking a Killer, the cold case files on the Frequency Podcast Network or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:27.5

Find your Frequency.

0:31.5

This is a CBC Podcast.

0:34.3

This episode contains difficult subject matter and references to suicidal ideation and intimate partner violence.

0:41.8

Please take care.

0:59.7

So we're just coming up to Sussex here.

1:02.2

This is the old road there used to be gas station there.

1:04.9

It's gone now, it's 57 kilometers to Sussex from the outskirts of St. John so it's not that far.

1:12.5

It's 40-45 minutes probably from St. John.

1:16.8

In February of 1988, when I was 23 years old, my mother asked me to meet her in a small village

1:24.0

in Southern New Brunswick.

1:26.1

The meeting, like so much else in our lives, was to be a secret.

1:31.1

I shouldn't tell anyone.

1:32.8

I was in the city.

1:34.7

And of course my mom had said to stop at the gas station.

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