My family spent 20 years on the run fleeing from threats I still struggled to

fully comprehend.

There's people out there that want to do us harm.

We got a phone call saying that your father's thugs were coming to break my legs.

Run hide repeat the unbelievable true story of a fugitive family and the

unimaginable truth of what we were running from.

Available now on CBC Listen and everywhere you get your podcasts.

This is a CBC Podcast.

I want to take you back to 1995.

John Nuddle is scraping by playing guitar in a band called Rat Salad.

It'll be more than a decade before he converts to Islam,

remake himself as an extremist and attracts the attention of Canada's national police.

For a while he's crashing on his friend Michael Lawers' couch.

They both love black Sabbath and Stanley Kubrick movies.

Here's Johnny!

All of it is escapism.

Just for that one brief moment you can forget about how shitty your life is

and pretend that things are okay.

But there's one escape in particular that cements their friendship.

The role-playing game Dungeons and Dragons.

He liked video games like you know most young men do.

But you know it was d&d that he liked the most to play.

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