From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Ruff. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to truth and justice.

For today's episode, we're getting away from the case file, we're getting away from the

trial transcripts, and we're getting down to talking about real people.

I'm going to be joined today on the phone with Liz Ayers' daughter, Tasha

Stiles. Tasha's been listening along with the podcast. I've been in communication with her over the last

couple of weeks, and I asked her if she would be willing to come on the show and tell us about her

mom, both so that we can see Liz Ayers as more than just a victim, but as a person, and also to

help us understand her victimology better than what the police told us in their police file,

which was very little, as you know. So without any further ado, here's my conversation with Tasha

Stiles. My name is Tasha Stiles. I am Liz Ayers' daughter.

How old were you at the time of your mom's murder?

I was 20, 20 years old.

I wasn't sure.

You and I talked a little bit about that before, but I wasn't sure if you were real young.

But because of your age, you're probably the absolute best source we have to learn about

your mom, both as a person and for victimology purposes.

And I guess the first place for us to start is, can you just tell us about your mom?

I know you've told me that, you know, your mom had some struggles, you know, around this time and while you were growing up.

You know, my audience is aware of that too, but, you know, a lot of people have struggles.

But just as openly and honestly as you can, just tell us about your mom in kind of your relationship with her.

Well, my mom was my best friend.

She did have addiction problems.

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