This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This Podcast.

Hi guys, I'm excited for you to get to experience this incredible conversation that I had

with Jonathan Rumi who plays Jesus on the chosen. Now if you've never seen the

chosen I would encourage you to go watch all of the seasons. It is transformative.

I first stumbled across it when it was in season one

and I remember just weeping in my bed

as I watched just a new portrayal of Jesus.

And what was really special and unique about this

portrayal and I really believe it's one of the reasons the chosen has reached so

far in the world is that Jesus was so emotional and I think we've often seen Jesus portrayed as very

steady and calm and not reacting to things and yet this Jesus smiled at moments that you would have thought he would have

been angry and you see just this humanness that he was living on earth with that he was

fully God but he also was fully man and he experienced the

breadth of emotions.

And so as some of you know I have been working on a project called Untangle Your Emotions for a long time.

I've been studying Emotions and one thing that I believe

is transformative and even provocative about this project is that emotions are not

the enemy. Emotions are not sinful. We so often demonize emotions and try to get rid of negative

emotions and yet God is emotional and we see that most through Jesus and he

made us in his image and therefore we are emotional like God.

And the gift of emotions is that we're able to be fully connected to God and other people

in a vulnerable and deeper way.

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