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🗓️ 22 May 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Amy Carlson, better known as "Mother God," started as a spiritually curious mom but became the leader of a notorious cult built on sleep deprivation, forced labor, and financial exploitation. She claimed to be Marilyn Monroe, Joan of Arc, and even Jesus—remembering, in vivid detail, being crucified.
But how does someone go from a seemingly ordinary life to believing they are God? And how did it all spiral into one of the most bizarre and tragic cult stories ever told?
Join Dr. Phil as he unpacks Amy Carlson’s rise to power, her shocking beliefs, and the eerie final days leading up to her grotesque and tragic end. With firsthand accounts from cult members and expert analysis, this episode is a deep dive into the psychology behind cult leadership and blind devotion.
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0:00.0 | Welcome back to an all-new mystery and murder analysis by Dr. Phil, where we dive, deep dive into some of the most infamous criminal minds and headline-making true crime news stories. |
0:24.3 | Now, in the next episodes, we're going to unpack the unsettling story of Amy Carlson, |
0:32.7 | known to the world as Mother God. |
0:42.3 | Now, at first glance, she appeared to be a free-spirited hippie with a mission to spread love and happiness. |
0:46.3 | But beneath that facade, she was leading what would become widely regarded |
0:53.3 | as an infamous cult, built on sleep deprivation, |
0:58.0 | forced labor, and financial exploitation. In a twist, I never saw coming, her movement would ultimately |
1:09.0 | lead to her shocking and tragic demise. |
1:12.9 | Now, this story hits close to home for me because before Amy's case became the subject |
1:19.7 | of a widely publicized HBO documentary, her family turned to me in desperation. |
1:27.2 | About four years ago, prior to Amy's death, her mother and sisters appeared on Dr. Phil, |
1:35.6 | seeking a way to reconnect with Amy, if at all possible, and plead with her to stop her disturbing downward spiral |
1:46.8 | and get some help, any kind of help. |
1:50.1 | Amy herself did her first ever television interview with me, |
1:55.7 | and let's just say it's one that I'll never forget. |
1:58.8 | Now, I wanna pull the curtain back on how this happened on Dr. Phil. |
2:04.7 | We've done a lot of work on cults, and it's estimated, get this, that there are anywhere |
2:11.5 | between 5,000 and 10,000 cults actively operating in the United States at any one time. |
2:19.3 | And you think, how is that possible? |
2:22.3 | It's possible because of the Internet. |
2:25.3 | So many of these operate and reach people through the Internet. |
2:30.3 | People up late at night and they start listening and they start paying attention and they're |
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