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Made For This with Jennie Allen

S15 Ep2: How to Navigate a Spiritual Slump with Dr. Alicia Britt Chole

Made For This with Jennie Allen

Made For This with Jennie Allen

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.86.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Jennie and Dr. Alicia Britt Chole talk about getting lost in the night and just how normal it is. If you are searching in your journey of faith – you aren’t alone. Joab, Elijah, Moses, and even Jesus have all been here. Just because we are followers of Christ doesn’t mean we won’t suffer. Jennie and Dr. Chole’s conversation shows us how God is inviting us to be with Him in that darkness and explains why challenging and questioning Him is all part of the process.

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MAIN POINTS:
  • 1:10 The normalcy of feeling disillusioned with God.
  • 13:46 Our invitation to sit with God in our darkness
  • 23:42 The importance of having an honest dialogue with God
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0:00.0

This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This podcast.

0:03.6

Thank you to Hello Fresh for their continued support of Made for This.

0:14.0

Go to Hello Fresh.com slash 50 Made for This and use code 50 Made for This for 50% off plus free shipping. Well, you all absolutely loved our first interview together. Today we are excited to have back

0:36.1

Dr. Alicia Brit Choli and if you know anything about her, if you heard our first interview

0:41.8

or you've read her books, you know she is a sage, she is wise and she is

0:47.2

bringing that wisdom to so many people that I know in real life that that call you mentor and friend and so Alicia thanks for being here.

0:54.7

Oh thank you so much it's always a joy to interact with you thank you for the

0:58.6

opportunity. Yeah so let's talk about this you you released a new book not too long ago and I mean it's a word that

1:06.0

has a lot of feelings I feel like associated with it. So disillusionment. Talk a little bit

1:11.4

about just this topic and where this this came from and the

1:16.1

book is actually called the night is normal which oh I mean if somebody could

1:20.5

have told me that the first dark night of my soul,

1:23.2

which I will say, you know, that is something we learn over time,

1:27.7

but it is, it always, especially when you're young,

1:30.6

it hits you so hard because you think life is supposed to go

1:34.2

well for those that love God right? Yes yeah absolutely well when we look back at the

1:40.6

very very very beginning in the creation story we see that night was one of the original residents of Eden. So before sin, before the fall,

1:52.1

before the curse, night was there.

1:56.4

Which means that the night is normal, which means that from the very, very beginning,

2:00.4

walking with God has required both day faith and night faith.

2:06.0

And this concept just began captivating me actually several decades ago.

2:11.0

Probably 30 years of study went before this book was printed. I was fascinated with the

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