So I never really get tired of talking about sour dough. I've done countless

episodes here on the Old Fashion on Purpose Podcast talking about that topic. There are

blog posts. There are portions in my books about Sourdough.

And I always come back to it, even though I've been doing it.

I think I started my first starter back in 2010, to be exact.

There's always new things to learn.

I'm always fascinated to see other people's approach to the process and just to

slowly figure out all the bits and pieces. So a while back I got a box in the mail with a variety of sour dough tools and so you know with my platforms I get things in mail all the time and I'm always curious and interested and these tools really caught my attention because number one they were packaged in a really cool and

streamlined way I do appreciate good packaging and number two they were just

different there were proofing baskets that were made out of different material than other baskets I'd seen.

There were these mysterious bread mats

that were designed to help you lift your loaves

in and out of the pots without burning yourself, which is a huge issue for those of you

who have baked, you know, the parchment paper sometimes doesn't work great.

And so I decided I needed to learn more about this company.

And so long story short, I dug dug into it I was connected with Mike from

Rose Hill sourdough he is the genius behind these products and well honestly

I've been trying to get him on the show for quite a while. Our schedules just wouldn't align. I stood them up one day. I had my calendar wrong. So we finally made it and you guys get to benefit from this conversation. We're going to talk about a simpler way to Sourdough.

Mike is an engineer.

I love how his brain works as he is in this product

development world and also the baking world.

So he has a lot of gyms and nuggets of info

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