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Hello and welcome to How to Fail with Elizabeth Day.

This is a podcast that celebrates the things that haven't gone right.

This is a podcast about learning from our mistakes and understanding that why we fail ultimately

makes us stronger, because learning how to fail in life actually means learning how to succeed

better.

I'm your host, author and journalist Elizabeth Day, and every week I'll be asking a new

interviewee what they've learned from failure.

Joe Elvin is a multi-awardening editor and broadcaster who's launched and helmed summer

Britain's most successful magazines.

She's also, fun fact, my former boss and a dear friend.

I first remember seeing her as a judge on one of my reality TV guilty pleasures, great British

hairdresser, but she's best known by many as the woman who launched Glamour magazine

in 2001 and who as editor-in-chief made it the biggest setting glossy in Europe.

Later, as a freelance feature writer myself, I would be lucky enough to be commissioned

by her.

Alongside print journalism, Joe is a regular presenter on TV shows such as Lorraine and

this morning.

In 2018, Joe became the editor of the Mail on Sunday's U magazine and I was hired to

be a columnist.

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