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The Thick Thighs Save Lives Podcast

S13 EP20: Dr. Jade Wu Knows Why You Are Lying Awake At Night

The Thick Thighs Save Lives Podcast

Constantly Varied Gear

Health & Fitness

4.9724 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Does sleep feel like an old friend you desperately want to reconnect with?

In this episode, we sit down with behavioral sleep medicine specialist Dr. Jade Wu, author of Hello Sleep, to talk about what actually fixes sleep, especially for women.

We cover:

  • Why women are more prone to insomnia 

  • The real reason your mind won’t relax

  • Sleep drive and arousal

  • How anxiety about sleep makes it worse

  • How lifting weights helps you sleep deeper

  • What you should do when you wake in the night

  • How to taper off sleep medication safely

  • Perimenopause and sleep physiology

  • The truth about screens before bed

  • And the wild science behind rewriting nightmares

Yes. Read that again: REWRITING NIGHTMARES! It’s a thing. 

If you’re tired of being tired, this episode is your reset.

Sleep isn’t something you chase.It’s something you rebuild.

Links: 

https://www.drjadewu.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjadewu/

And her book!: Hello Sleep: The Science and Art of Overcoming Insomnia Without Medications

(00:00:00)  Why women struggle more with sleep

(00:07:30) Sleep drive vs. arousal (the real sleep equation)(00:15:40) The vicious cycle of being “too tired”

(00:20:00) Getting off sleep medication safely

(00:28:00) Kids and sleep meds?

(00:41:30) Perimenopause, hormones & sleep apnea

(00:49:00) You CAN control nightmares

(00:56:00) Helping kids fall asleep

(01:00:00) Where to find Dr. Wu


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Transcript

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0:00.0

But if you move your body, works your muscles, then your brain will need to repair those muscles and build up your body again.

0:07.0

And that recovery will lead to deep sleep.

0:09.0

It's not just about the light from the screens. It's about the content.

0:12.0

Let's not wait until we're sick, sick, you know, to address it.

0:16.0

Let's prevent it. Let's establish that solid relationship with sleep as young as we can before it turns into a problem.

0:22.6

Yeah, about 0% of adults in the US have diagnosable insomnia disorder.

0:28.6

And then another 0% are unhappy with their sleep one way or another, but don't necessarily have a sleep disorder.

0:34.6

Rescript your dreams.

0:36.6

When you go to sleep, you're less likely to have the original nightmare, more likely to

0:40.9

have the dream you rehearsed.

0:43.3

Today's guest was raised in the world of sleep science.

0:45.3

Before becoming a top sleep psychologist earning her PhD in appearing on national media,

0:50.3

Dr. Jade Wu was a child living on the campus of the Chinese Space Agency, where

0:55.2

her father worked with the country's first space crew studying how sleep changes in orbit.

1:00.0

While astronauts are exploring the final frontier, Dr. Wu became fascinated with the human

1:04.3

brain. She's been recognized as a champion advocate by Society of Behavioral Sleep Medicine,

1:10.2

and her insights have been featured

1:11.5

everywhere from the New York Times National Geographic to NPR, TEDx, and major news networks.

1:18.0

Through her book, Hello Sleep, and through her clinical work as the founder of Thrive, Dr. Wu

1:22.9

has a refreshing, realistic approach to sleep that people describe as liberating and life-changing.

1:29.3

So get ready to unlearn what you thought you knew about sleep, including nightmares.

1:38.4

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Thick Thigh Save Lives podcast.

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