This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This Podcast.

Hey guys, Chloe here.

Before this episode begins, I just wanted to give you guys a warning to anyone who might have little ears listening with them.

This episode deals with heavy topics like grief and

suicide. We pray that this conversation leads to healing and helps inspire new ways

that we can love others through deep valleys. If you're thinking about suicide, or

worried about a friend or loved one or would like emotional support, the

Suicide and Crisis Lifeline Network is available 24-7 across the United States by dialing 988 or by chat at 988 lifeline

dot org slash chat. We're talking about the threads of suffering and how God redeem the darkest parts of our life for good and I am

joined by Kayla Steckline. Thanks for joining me Kayla. Thanks for having me

it's such an honor to be here. I'm just so grateful to be talking about this today.

Let's just start with your story.

I actually observed her story on social media,

like a lot of things we see.

It was blown away back then.

So talk a little bit in case people did not follow your story kind of what what was the

precipice for for all of this in your life yeah so about four and a half years ago I was

living my dream life I mean I really truly had everything I could have ever hoped for and more. I was married to my husband Andrew. We were leading a thriving growing church in Southern California called Inland Hills Church.

He was the lead pastor of the church.

We had three little boys together and we were loving ministry.

We were loving leading the church. We were we had a lot to learn and it was a large

congregation so there really was a lot to learn and a big staff to lead and then in the fall of 2017 is when things started to shift for our family.

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