This week on Blood Ties.

Burton approached her with a knife, with the same knife, presumably still bloodstained.

He said, give me your money and get into the car, please.

Which I'm afraid she did.

Burton then persuades her to drive to North Wales, about a hundred miles.

And poor girls obviously terrified, who wouldn't be.

At one point they stopped in Snowdonia for quite a long time.

And she kept talking to him to a divert him.

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