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PRETEND

S1208: The Stalker part 8

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Grace Gressman speaks out about the Rodriguez family stalking case In today's episode, we finally hear from Dr. Grace Gressman, the woman at the center of the Rodriguez family's cyberstalking saga. Despite having her statements in the police report, Javier calls her up to get her side of the story. To everyone's surprise, she picked up the phone. But that's not all. To get to the bottom of this case, Javier also confronts the alleged stalker himself. It's a bold move that could potentially reveal the true identity of the person behind the threatening messages that have terrorized the Rodriguez family for years. What does Dr. Gressman say about the allegations against her and her husband? And what does the stalker have to say when confronted by Javier? BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES Patreon Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more. Support PRETEND on Patreon PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast Follow Pretend on social media: Twitter TikTok YouTube PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, & New York Magazine. To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend and https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

We're a Callin' Chip from The Fellas, and this episode is brought to you by the new

0:11.9

movie, Strays!

0:14.4

Strays is the hilarious dog comedy that you've been waiting for.

0:17.4

The story follows Reggie, and a foul mouth book, who along with their pack of strays embark

0:21.9

on an epic adventure of revenge, doggy style.

0:25.6

And of course, it gets even better because it's voiced by Will Ferrell and Jamie Fultz.

0:30.2

So gather your mates!

0:31.9

Oh, I will, my friend, because Strays is in cinema's August 17th.

0:39.2

If you've been following this series so far, you know that this content is not suitable

0:43.4

for children.

0:44.6

This episode could be triggering for some, so please keep headphones on for this one.

0:49.5

You've been warned.

0:54.3

Previously, I'm pretend.

0:56.2

The stalker ordered multiple pizzas daily to a local Papa John's under Claudia's name.

1:01.7

The Papa John's manager, William Bell, told police that he spotted a man driving a Cadillac

1:06.7

during the same time those prank pizza orders were sent in.

1:10.9

He believes the description fit that of John Resman, the doctor's husband.

1:15.7

I called up William Bell to get more details about the orders and the harassing messages

1:20.4

that went along with it.

1:22.0

So initially I believed them and I had no reason not to meet people, you know, they were

1:28.2

getting orders from my store and they said that they didn't order, so I had no reason

1:34.4

not to believe them.

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