S12 Ep9: Britain’s Longest-Serving Lifer
Blood Ties Podcast
Peter Shevlin
4.4 • 668 Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2023
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Summary
Geoffrey and Molly Wansell turn their attention to the power of the parole board — and the shocking cases that test it to the limit.
This week’s story is Roger Payne, a killer who has spent decades behind bars and may be Britain’s longest-serving lifer. Should he ever be released? Has justice already been served? Or is he exactly where he belongs?
With trademark grit and fearless questioning, Geoffrey and Molly dig into Payne’s crime, his prison years, and the parole battles that continue to divide opinion.
CREDITS:
Presenters: Geoffrey and Molly Wansell
Artwork: George Leigh
Music: Dan Wansell
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Molly Wonsall and I'm Geoffrey Wonsall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder |
| 0:11.3 | and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties |
| 0:19.1 | Hi everyone welcome back to the blood ties podcast I'm Molly Wantsall and I'm here with my father, Geoffrey Wonsall. |
| 0:24.2 | Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being there. |
| 0:28.5 | This is one of our joint ones. We're doing a couple now, both Molly and I together, which is very nice. |
| 0:36.3 | And I went back and looked at all your suggestions. |
| 0:40.5 | I've been trawling through the suggestions, |
| 0:44.2 | and one particularly caught my eye. |
| 0:47.5 | So that's what we're going to be talking about today. |
| 0:49.7 | But how's your week been, Mo? |
| 0:51.3 | Okay. |
| 0:52.1 | Okay. |
| 0:53.2 | I've been off work because I had a cold. |
| 0:55.1 | Well, I wasn't off work, but I was... |
| 0:56.6 | You were at home? |
| 0:57.8 | For some of it, yeah. |
| 0:59.0 | Yeah, well, that's all right. |
| 1:02.7 | So, yeah, not much of a report, really. |
| 1:04.7 | Oh, that's all right. |
| 1:05.6 | And it's probably a good thing. |
| 1:09.0 | Yes, I've had a sort of quietish week. |
| 1:10.7 | I've been preparing stuff |
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