that when we're looking at like, well, how far is it to that stop sign, to that finish line, to that end state where I'm like, I want to walk a half a mile. What does a half a mile look like? Well, it's got to take me to that building or it's going to take me three times around the track or whatever. How we look at that space really matters. As a behavioral scientist, what does it mean to like see the finish line is further away? When something looks hard, when it looks farther away, it feels like, I'm not sure that I can make it.

Self-efficacy goes down. The task looks more difficult.

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Hi, guys, and welcome back to the Thick Thighs Save Lives Podcast.

I'm Rachel and I have a really special guest for you today.

Our specialist is going to let you know everything you have ever wondered about why you seem to see things one way and the person standing next to you

sees them totally different. I have for you today Emily Balchettis and I am so excited to hear

all the important research that you've been doing, Emily. It's really incredible in the field.

Thanks so much for having me. Excited for this chat.

Emily is an award-winning behavioral scientist. She's an associate professor of psychology at New York

University. And she also is the author of the book, Clearer,, better, how successful people see the world.

This is such important work you've done TED talks that have amassed millions of views now.

And all of the research is you're pioneering the investigation of motivation and uncovering

previously unknown strategies that sustain people's efforts to meet their goals.

Like, is this what everyone has been looking for?

For decades, for lifetimes, right? Since probably humans have

been created, people have been looking for how can I better meet my goals? Yes. And thinking of it,

or well, we'll get into the perception, but thinking of it in terms of what we are seeing and how accurate it is to maybe,

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