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Hello and welcome. You're tuned into the best and paranormal talk radio. This is beyond

the darkness. I'm your host Dave Schrader. Listen, we are in the season. We are in the Halloween

season. Now we're deep in its grasp, and I know a lot of you are interested in all the

great little scary bits of Halloween. We're going to try to talk some werewolves sometime

this month and vampires, but we'd be remiss if we didn't at least touch on witches.

There was a book that was brought to my attention, a season with the witch, the magic and mayhem

of Halloween in Salem, Massachusetts. We're joined tonight by an Edgar award-winning travel writer

who spent an autumn living in one of America's spookiest tourist destinations, Salem, Massachusetts.

J.W. Ocker is here with us this evening to talk to us about that. You've written a great book

about Poland, not Poland, but Poland, Edgar Allan Poland and the hollowed haunts of Edgar Allan

Poe, too, my favorite topic. I'm looking forward to chatting with you and dipping into both tonight

if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah, sounds like fun days. What a cool deal. Now you've got a website. Tell

us a little bit about the website that you've got. Sure, sure. So with OthensifeSeen.com

and I like, I, I acronym that as Otis for OthensifeSeen and it's real simple. I just go to

weird places, weird sites, anything with a physical president's presence and I visit it. I write

about it, I take photos and post it. It's really simple, but it's like, I don't know, it's a really

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