Welcome to the Codenovie podcast.

We talk to people on their coding journey in hopes of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Zeron, and today we're talking about personal projects and the Wild West that was the internet of the early odds.

With Zay Frank, former president of BuzzFeed Motion Pictures,

and creator of the massively popular website, zayfrank.com.

I would still say that at the level that I got to, which I would say was not a coder,

it had a remarkable transformative effect on my thinking.

Zay Frank talks about his creative process.

He also shares his journey into coding by creating funny and obtuse, interactive projects on his personal website,

which won a 2002 Webby Award for Best Personal Website, and in 2005, was featured in Time Magazine's 50 coolest websites after this.

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Shopify.com slash setup. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you. So how did you get into coding?

Well, my dad is a scientist. And when I was growing up, I was just on the cusp of the kind of video game era.

So one of the first experiences I had was when I asked my dad for a video game and he tried to teach me in basic how to make one.

And, you know, obviously the result is a pretty terrible video game. So, but I got some

fundamentals there. And then in college, I studied neuroscience and CS was part of that degree. After that, it was

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