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Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth Injustice. This is your final Friday follow-up episode

for season 11, the Pablo Valiz case. As I mentioned last week in the follow-up, I'm out of town

investigating our season 12 case right now. So rather than record a Q&A remotely after the

interview with Pablo's attorneys, I decided for this week's follow-up a better way to go would be

for you to hear from Pablo himself. So I got Pablo on the phone this week. We talk about everything

from what he thought about the season, how he feels about his case, what he wants to do when he

gets out, and just generally how things are going for him in prison. It's a good conversation,

it's a nice chance to really get to know who Pablo is, and that is going to be your final Friday

follow-up for season 11 right after a break. Hello. Pablo, how you doing? I'm all right.

Those things going down there. Man, it's a same old, same old. Yeah, I always ask that question when

I'm talking to guys that are in and realize what a stupid question it actually is.

Well, did Lisa tell you, as you've been keeping you up to date with what's been going on with

the podcast along the way? Yeah. Okay. So what we're doing is we, I talked to your lawyers this week,

and they're going to wrap up the season with their thoughts on the case and stuff like that,

and for our follow-up episode, I want to talk to you and get some final thoughts from you,

kind of a final message to the listeners, and so we can just get right into it. The first thing

I want to talk about is, so Lisa's been kind of sharing with you what we've been talking about in the case.

Is there anything from what she's told you that you want to share with the listeners that maybe

I haven't shared with them yet, or anything that you think they haven't heard yet?

I mean, pretty much you've paid it right on the head now. You know what I mean? I mean,

you know, just a few things like on Ron and Shorty, I think she had said they were in prison,

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