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S1102: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 2

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Frank Abagnale claims he never stole money from the little guy—it was all victimless crimes. But that's not what I found. Hear the story of one family who says they were robbed blind by Abagnale. _______ Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher. Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Babel

0:07.0

I simply was like many people who fell under the seductive influence of the real Frank William

0:13.8

Abigail Jr. I was very seduced by him from his book just by the character how he saw himself

0:20.6

when he wrote the book about his adventures, his exploits in the world of being an imposter

0:26.1

and check fraud.

0:28.2

This is the voice of Steven Spielberg, the most commercially successful director of all

0:33.1

time.

0:34.7

This young man came of age during a 21 month's crime spree and a lot of which was very

0:44.4

innocent.

0:46.4

Innocent?

0:47.4

I mean, the Salem witches were innocent.

0:50.6

Galileo, who was imprisoned because he believed that the earth revolved around the sun

0:55.0

was innocent, George Floyd who was brutally murdered by police in broad daylight was innocent.

1:02.8

Frank Abigail is not innocent.

1:05.7

Even if you believe his story, the guy robbed and cheated his way throughout life.

1:12.6

Maybe Spielberg is referring to childhood innocence.

1:16.9

You remember right?

1:17.9

The period in time when you still believe that monsters lived under your bed and that

1:22.2

your parents were the most powerful people in your life.

1:26.5

Through the eyes of an innocent child, there is no sex.

1:30.1

There is no death.

1:31.9

There are no consequences.

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