I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone welcome back to the blood ties podcast I'm Molly Wonsall and I'm here with my father Geoffrey Wonsall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being there. Thank you for your support.

When you're listening to this, Jeffrey's going to be in Tunisia.

I am. In the desert.

In the Sahara. Just a relaxed trip to the desert in the Sahara

just a relaxed trip to the desert

well maybe it won't be 44 degrees this time

no it's not that hot

it's 30

in Tunis at the moment

not that hot

no it was very very hot the last time. Very, very, very, very hot.

But I think it should be okay this time. Does your suitcase get full of sand? No, not if I can

help it. I once had a suitcase that got full of bed bugs in India. Eek. And he came back in the suitcase and infested my bedroom. Oof. Horrible things. That's awful. They're horrible. I had to get a man and everything. You have to have a whole place fumigated. Fumigated, yes. I mean, it all came back, all because I'd been to India, Kerala, in the south. What when you went and did that article about? Yes. Yeah, I remember that. I didn't know you brought bed bags back with you, though. Lucky me. You have to be careful about things like that, you know. Yeah. And if there wasn't a scorpion in your no no plenty of scorpions in the desert

i know yeah they go in your wellie boots and things they're not wellies they go in your shoes and

things they do you've got to be careful with it once when i was in mexico there was um

saw a lot of scorpions.

I don't know if I've ever seen a scorpion IRL.

It's the most dangerous creature you've seen in the flesh.

No.

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