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And then I learned through communication with Carrie, you know, one she was wearing my white.

Two it was, so I'm losing my turn and thought I'm right.

You were going to say the second location?

Two there was a second location that wasn't properly documented.

That's Constable Jarelle Smith talking.

It's been two months since he last met with Carrie at the cafe.

On a sunny day in May, they get together again.

This time, with a new member of Carrie's legal team, Harry Critchley, you can hear us fast typing in the background.

We're sitting in a basement office of Elizabeth Frye, where Critchley works.

Smith is committed to testify on Carrie's behalf as she prepares to bring her complaint of misconduct to a hearing before the police board.

This could deliver her an opportunity she's been searching for, the chance to sit across from the supervisors in the state unit,

and to tell them her side of the story, face to face.

Critchley is hearing Smith's version of events in detail for the first time.

The sound quality is poor in this tape.

I was recording with consent on my phone, but only for reference.

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