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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S10E2: A Slippery Slope

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.67.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Over the course of 36 hours, 15 year old Jennifer Jeffley was interviewed by police multiple times without a lawyer or parent present. In this episode Bob walks us through the events of these two days, and the tactics used by Houston PD Investigator, Detective Waymond Allen. We hear from Jennifer's mother, as she describes what it was like being the parent on the outside of the police station, as the Detective coaxed Jennifer into making an incriminating statement.

Make sure you check out Bob's new podcast True Crime Binge in between episodes of Truth & Justice. Every Wednesday Bob invites another true crime podcast host on to talk about their background, their production, and a case of the week. His most recent episode features Christine Schiefer from the And That's Why We Drink podcast. Bob and Christine break down the heartbreaking and triumphant story of Miriam Rodriguez, who set out on a mission to bring her daughter's killers to justice. And coming this Wednesday, Bob is joined by host of the True Crime Garage podcast, Nic, to continue his deep dive into the Delphi, Indiana murders of Abby Williams and Libby German.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

From NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:15.9

I'm Bob Ra.

0:32.9

A parent's worst nightmare. That's a phrase that can be used to describe any number of circumstances.

0:39.8

Included in that list is the helpless feeling of knowing the police are questioning your child,

0:46.4

and you can't be there to help them or guide them through the process.

0:51.2

Because of what I do for a living, my children have been taught from a very young age

0:55.6

that you never talked to the police without a lawyer present. No exceptions, full stop, never.

1:03.0

Unfortunately, very few parents would even think to teach this valuable lesson to their children.

1:09.7

I mean, after all, the police are the good guys.

1:13.2

And what are the chances that the situation will ever even come up?

1:17.3

But what if it does? Would your son or daughter be prepared?

1:22.1

Would they be suspicious of a seemingly kind police officer who might offer them a candy bar,

1:27.4

feed them a meal, assure them that they're doing the right thing and that they can go home just

1:34.0

as soon as they sign a statement? These are all tactics that are used by detectives every day

1:40.2

in order to keep a juvenile witness or suspect talking. Our children are taught to respect adults,

1:47.1

especially those in a position of authority. The police officers know that and they use it to

1:54.3

their advantage. This is season 10, episode 2, a slippery slope.

2:12.0

There's something you need to know about the investigation into the murder of Catalina Palomino,

2:16.3

something really important. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is lying. There were four key

2:24.9

witnesses to the murder. Four people who could hold a key to cracking the case.

2:30.8

Even Mondragon claims to have heard Miss Palomino screaming. She's the one who ran to the

2:35.8

manager's office to get help. That much we know. Then you have the two boys who were in the

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