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This episode contains depictions of violence and may not be suitable for all audiences. When I first met John Cooper at a park in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, he told me about a night where his pastor, Jane Whaley, called for a meeting with some of the church's younger members.

You see, some of these young adults found themselves in trouble with the church, and they

needed some sort of intervention.

He remembers pastor Jane Whaley saying,

You know, y'all are so out from under authority and you're all, you know, given to so much

sin and you're so wicked. And so all young people need to get together and like have a

revival of sorts there's probably about 40-50 young people that were all told to

show up and so we show up on Monday night and and people are talking and sharing and whatever, you know, like they

normally did reading scripture.

They were asked to go around the room and confess their sins.

John remembers he and his wife were just sitting there quietly, just waiting their turn.

You know, they're all going around and kind of talking about what God's doing in their life or what

sin God is convicting them of, but I was just sitting there being quiet, like trying to figure out what am I going to say, right?

Well over half of people have already said something and they're kind of working their way around and my wife and I are both just being like really quiet over here in the corner and so they kind of turned on us and we're like, what are you all giving to you? Like what are you know, why are y'all sitting over there, you know, not opening your heart.

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