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The Expert Witness from Uncover

S10 "The Village 2" E4: We belong

The Expert Witness from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.510.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Police believe someone knows who killed Cassandra; all he has to do is talk. Meanwhile, trans activists and their allies embark on a long fight for inclusion in human rights laws — in Canada and around the world. Note: If you're in crisis or just looking for someone to talk to, try the Trans Lifeline’s Hotline — a peer support phone service run by trans people for trans and questioning folks: CAN (877) 330-6366 or US (877) 565-8860 For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-villiage-season-2-transcripts-listen-1.6076988

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0:00.0

My name is Ian Urbina. I've reported on some pretty mind-blowing stories, but nothing like what happens at sea.

0:08.5

If they got within 800 meters, that is when we would fire warning shots.

0:12.3

Murder, slavery, human trafficking, and staggering environmental crimes.

0:17.1

Men have told me that they've been beaten with stingray tails, which means...

0:20.8

If you really want to understand crime, start with a law of the land ends. The Outlaw Ocean.

0:26.3

Available now on CBC Listen and everywhere you get your podcasts.

0:31.7

This is a CBC Podcast.

0:34.8

The following episode contains difficult subject matter, so please take care.

0:45.4

On Monday, August 25th, 2003,

0:50.3

Miss Doe, who was working as a sex trade worker, had two dates set up for the day.

0:56.4

She was living with a family member at that time. She asked her family member to leave for a couple hours while she had her dates over.

1:05.1

They never received the call to come back, so eventually they decided to go back to the apartment, which they found the door locked.

1:14.4

So they called some more family members who also came down, and three family members entered the apartment,

1:20.5

and found Cassandra deceased in the bathtub with marks on her neck.

1:27.9

It turns out once the officers got there, that Cassandra was manually strangled to death during the day.

1:35.2

I'm Justin Leng, and this is The Village.

1:48.4

Cassandra Doe's murder has hung over the trans community in Toronto for almost two decades.

1:54.4

When I first started looking into her death, I really didn't know whether the Toronto police service still cared about this case at all.

2:01.1

I thought maybe the file on Cassandra's murder was like so many others, living in filing cabinets at police headquarters, open technically but mostly forgotten.

2:13.2

That was until I got a call back from Detective Sergeant Steve Smith from the cold case team.

2:21.2

It's not just open, but being actively investigated, and he said they know someone who could help identify the killer.

2:29.2

So in spring of 2021, I went to Toronto police headquarters to meet Smith and his colleague, Detective Barb Douglas.

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