What's up by everybody? This is J.J. with your boy.

Matt. What's up, man? Hey, what's up, J.J. How you doing, dude?

I'm good, bro. So fun fact, this is actually the first interview we've done for the men's minisos and you are

Really? Yeah, I guess number one. Dude starting off on a strong note.

I know well where you can just say the expectations, there's none. So, we really can't mess up here, okay? There we go. Low barrier to entry. I love it. Me too. So, honestly, you guys, I've waited a long time to call this card.

That's a big dog, so you gotta, you know, use your local equity when you came and get

a mon. But we're in the trust treaty just to set the toe like we are really, really

vulnerable. What I love about Matt is he's super transparent and he came on to talk to our men about a year ago and I just loved how you approached the topic of pornography and addiction.

I think what stood out to me was it's just so full of empowerment because what I see is the opposite. I see men reduced, you know, reduced to being sexual animals with a sexual edge who have to just simply feel their sexual urge and they're powerless

even to the that they just have to rely on crutches so that's why you ended in today, but we're the audience.

I would just love to know how to get to where you are,

you know, as a self-sabbatized addiction.

Gotcha.

Well, now that you're telling me I'm here to talk about porn I thought this was a baking class because I've been making some fire fajitas lately

Okay, switching gears so when it comes to talking about porn how did I get started? Very unsexy beginning, guys.

So it's really hilarious, I'll give you the Kohl's notes version,

but my wife and I, we live in Maui Hawaii and I'm Canadian originally so she was

working for our family I was a stay-at-home dad she was the breadwinner and she

comes home from church one day and she's literally she literally

says to me I got prayer at church it couldn't be more clear so I quit my job you're

up and this is us like I'm I have no way to work legally in the country, and she just pulls the, I'm not working any more card.

You've got to figure this whole thing out for our family, because we were just in two different energies like I was staying at home she was working and that's just not our natural go to so the first place I actually had to start other than like, you know, praying incessantly like,

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