I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wonsall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone, welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast. I'm Molly Wonsall and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being there. Thank you for writing to us. Thank you for all the things we're very grateful for.

I was thinking the other day when I was listening to the podcast, I should probably re-record the beginning bit because it says that's what prompted us to start this true crime podcast.

But we're way past starting, aren't we?

We are, yeah.

We've four and a half years in, 150 podcasts, something like that.

And now we're talking to people this week about some other kind of interaction with the

podcast.

Who knows?

Who knows?

I mean, it's mystery.

But it's all, it's very exciting.

Still, even now, and we have been doing it a bit.

It's very exciting to do. and very nice, and very warm.

I know the subject's not always very cheerful,

but it really is a warm experience,

and we know you're there, and you know we're here,

and we're there for each other.

So for me, it's an absolute joy.

Yeah, me too, me too too um so you've been um gardening no i haven't been gardening no i have a client who's written a book about

flowers and she's doing a kind of book launch i was at an event for that plus i've been to the

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