I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansel and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called Blood Ties

Hi everyone welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast.

I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone. Welcome back to Blood Ties.

Special welcome for all the people who joined us for the first time.

I think there are small numbers.

No, do you think?

Yeah, I do.

I'll get more and more letters and emails from people saying,

oh, I've just discovered your podcast. So welcome to the new ones. Oh, very welcome. Welcome back to the old ones. Well, every single one of you means a great deal to us. Very, very important part of our lives. And we've had a tiny break. I mean, it feels like two weeks to you.

It's actually only a week for us.

Yes, yes.

But however, we were determined to get going again.

Partly because Molly's got some commitments and I've got to be away and so we sort of decided we get going again.

Yep.

So how has your week been, Mo?

Okay. Oh, that's all right. That's good. I mean, varied. Vared, yes, like the

Kirritzeg. Tiring, how's yours? Yeah. You were very busy. I've been busy. Yes, lots of filming this week.

Was it okay?

Yeah, it was okay, thank you.

Except if you do very big American serial killers, you know, multiples who kill 9 or 14, or in one case, as I did this week, and admitted, he confessed to 17 and probably killed 21,

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