Welcome to the Code Newby Podcast.

We talk to people on their coding journey in helps of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Ron, and today we're talking about the future of programming with author and founder of O'Reilly Media, Tim O'Reilly.

I think in general our education system creates a disconnect between purpose and mechanism.

We teach the mechanism and we fail to teach the purpose.

Tim talks about how he got into coding, what we're doing wrong and what we're doing right with

teaching programming today, and how we need to make coding more inclusive

for more than just career developers after this.

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U.K.S.S. Thanks for being here. Oh, glad to be with you. So your career is insanely vast.

You've done publishing from the whole internet user's guide and catalog in 1992 to make

magazine in 2005.

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