S10 E2 | Is Infidelity the Only Reason for Divorce?
Therapy and Theology
Proverbs 31 Ministries
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Divorce is so deeply complex, confusing, and gut-wrenching — especially when you are blindsided by betrayal and left facing a future you never asked for.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- Why Matthew 19 is often misunderstood and debated, and what Jesus actually meant.
- What the connection is between Old and New Testament teachings on marriage and divorce.
- How to keep refusing shame so you can walk toward deeper healing for your future.
A special thank-you to our partner for this season: Convoy of Hope. For over 30 years, Convoy of Hope has helped vulnerable communities around the world — and empowering women and girls is a key part of that mission. Convoy of Hope partners with women so they can start their own businesses to better support themselves and their families. Because when women are empowered, entire communities are transformed. Visit convoy.org/p31 to help empower women and girls today.
Links and Resources We'll Mention in This Episode:
- Get your copy of Surviving an Unwanted Divorce by Lysa TerKeurst, Dr. Joel Muddamalle, and Jim Cress.
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- The Therapy & Theology podcast is brought to you by Proverbs 31 Ministries. Proverbs 31 Ministries exists to help women encounter the Truth of God's Word in every season. Learn more here!
- Click here to download a transcript of this episode.
Go Deeper:
- Listen to "Difficult vs. Destructive Relationships" With Leslie Vernick.
- Listen to "Is Every Red Flag a Big Deal?"
- Watch "How To Deal With Emotional Abuse."
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Proverbs 31 is proud to partner with Convoy of Hope to sponsor this season of therapy and theology. |
| 0:06.9 | For over 30 years, Convoy of Hope has helped vulnerable communities around the world, and |
| 0:11.5 | empowering women and girls is a key part of that mission. Convoy of Hope partners with women |
| 0:16.4 | so that they can start their own businesses to better support themselves and their families. |
| 0:24.3 | They also help young girls realize their worth and find their voice, |
| 0:28.1 | because when women are empowered, entire communities are transformed. |
| 0:34.0 | You can empower women and girls today by visiting convoy.org slash p31. |
| 0:45.3 | That's convoy.org slash P31. Hi, friends. Welcome back to the Therapy and Theology podcast brought to you by Preverbs 31 Ministries. |
| 0:49.9 | We're here to help you work through what you walk through, and I'm so glad that you're back listening today. |
| 0:55.0 | I'm your host, Shay Hill, and I'm super excited about today's conversation. |
| 0:58.8 | If you listen to episode one, you know this season we're diving into honest conversations about the painful reality of divorce. |
| 1:05.1 | And each conversation is inspired by an upcoming book releasing in November called Surviving an Unwanted Divorce, |
| 1:11.9 | written by Lisa, Dr. Joel Mutamale, and Jim Cress. |
| 1:15.4 | Whether you've experienced divorce yourself, been impacted by it in your family, or you're |
| 1:20.5 | a Christian with a lot of questions, I hope today's conversation will give you truth to hold |
| 1:25.2 | on to and a lot to think about. |
| 1:30.1 | Dr. Joel is going to help us dive into the New Testament today as we look at some commonly debated or even misunderstood scriptures from Jesus on marriage and divorce. |
| 1:36.6 | So this may be an episode that you want to take notes on. |
| 1:39.6 | Also, if you'd like to receive new episodes delivered straight to your inbox, |
| 1:43.1 | there's a link in our show notes where you can subscribe. |
| 1:45.6 | All right, let's get into today's conversation. |
| 1:49.5 | I remember the first time that I had a doctor's appointment after my divorce. |
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