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Sea of Lies from Uncover

S1 "Escaping NXIVM" E6: The Defence

Sea of Lies from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.610K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Josh speaks to one of Keith Raniere's lawyers, Marc Agnifilo, and hears a different point of view on NXIVM and DOS.

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0:00.0

Bankman Freed's entire House of Cards started to crumble as crypto asset prices plummeted in bank.

0:06.0

This morning we unsealed an eight-count indictment charging Samuel Bankman Freed.

0:13.0

I'm Jacob Silverman, host of the new podcast The Naked Emperor.

0:18.0

I'm going to explain how Sam Bankman Freed built and destroyed a multi-billion-dollar crypto empire.

0:26.0

Available now on CBC Listen and everywhere you get your podcast.

0:32.0

This is a CBC podcast.

0:34.0

Can I get you to start off by just by introducing yourself what's your name and your role in this specific case?

0:40.0

Sure. My name is Mark Agnaflow. I'm the lead attorney for Keith Reneieri.

0:46.0

I've been a lawyer for 28 years. My practice is based in Manhattan, but this is a case out of Brooklyn.

0:52.0

It's scheduled to go to trial this coming January.

0:55.0

Can I ask you why you agreed to do this interview?

0:59.0

I just thought that it's very easy and matters like this to have everyone talking about one viewpoint and not another viewpoint.

1:09.0

I mean, I think that the government's viewpoint is very clear.

1:13.0

I think it's errant and I think it's not the whole picture, but it's very clear that this is essentially a sex cult and that there's sex trafficking.

1:23.0

And my concern in matters like this is that there is another viewpoint.

1:39.0

I'm Josh Block. This is Escaping Nexium from CBC Podcasts Uncover.

1:47.0

Chapter 6. The Defense.

1:53.0

Since the start of this investigation, my questions for Keith have been piling up.

2:03.0

I've wanted to hear his perspective on all kinds of things.

2:07.0

What does he think of the allegation that he's the head of a cult?

2:11.0

Was he running DOS or wasn't he?

2:13.0

But was DOS 4? And why did membership involve branding his initials on the women who joined?

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