For the past few years on the good old internet, there has been a gender divide when it comes to dating,

which I think we can boil down to men with traditional values versus women with modern values.

And to capitalize off of this, we have seen countless relationship podcasts and intimacy experts pop up.

And although this divide is no longer at its peak, it still lives on and drains some of the life out of us in the process.

Well, today I want to introduce you to two men whose work is doing something about this.

Some people that have had some, some smoke are like dictatorship with the points they're trying to

get across. And it's like they have like a very like egotistical agenda of like, I need a platform

because people need to hear what I have to say on this thing.

And it just creates this like horrible, horrible mentality where everyone's just like,

yeah, just unplug the microphones.

These guys are not allowed to speak anymore.

I think a lot of people, if anything, use us as a nice respite from the Gender Wars.

I think the way we come out of things is like strong opinions loosely held.

Like we can like argue about something and then very quickly, some are like,

oh, actually not true because of X, Y, Z and we're immediately like,

okay, fair enough. We're wrong, fair enough.

It looks like we're wrong.

Fohad and James from shits and gigs are here to have a bit more serious than usual

of a conversation with the perks and responsibilities of their jobs as podcasters in the sex

and relationship space. I did say a bit more serious. So how do we get more men actively engaged in these

conversations? A mutual friend of ours is a schoolteacher and she said one of like the most

heartfelt like compliments to me. And she said that like I made a joke one time on a clip where

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