Most people would say like, either one, don't do fuck buddies or friends who benefits or two, don't try to make it anything more.

For us, if you're not able to make love properly to one another, then I don't think we would have been in this at all.

So do you feel like you got into it being like, I want you to be my wife and this is where we're starting?

100% no.

No.

100% no. I was just like, you are a really cute girl who I get along a lot with.

And the more I hang out with you, the more I want to hang out with you.

Like the spark was like, like how good the sex was.

You know, like we had like really good sex.

And then, oh, like, wait a minute.

We can actually also really get along and like talk.

I just heard a story yesterday of someone going on a first date and talking about attachment styles.

And then in real time being like, ah, that's not going to work for me because my attachment style is different than yours.

I'm like, what the heck is wrong with you?

According to a singles in America study, 55% of people have had a friends with benefits,

and that's a relationship where two people agree to have a sexual relationship based on convenience

and a social relationship without a romantic commitment. And so of the people in this particular study,

40% said that their friends with benefits,

or at least one of them, eventually turned into a long-term love affair.

So is that stat, along with the personal experience of the guests on this episode,

along with my personal experience, enough to convince you that frequently fucking first and then figuring out the rest later

is actually the way to go to form long-term bonds.

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