Before we get started, just a quick note to say that some of the names in this podcast have been changed to protect their identities.

But the stories you are about to hear are very real indeed.

Please check the episode show notes for trigger warnings as listener discretion is advised.

If you'd like to share your story on the Affair Podcast, please email our wonderful producers on Affair at Curvemedia.com.

Welcome to The Affair Podcast. I'm Anna Williamson. Now, if you don't know me, I'm a relationship

therapist, coach and TV personality. Now, this podcast will unveil the secrets behind modern day affairs as we explore everything

from emotional affairs to rebuilding trust after betrayal.

One in five people have admitted to having an affair.

But it's a topic that rarely explored and remains taboo because it sparks such powerful

emotions and judgments.

Each episode features a different real-life affair story told by the people involved

and offers insights into the emotions, causes and consequences of infidelity in today's world.

From the motivations behind affairs to the impact on relationships,

we'll uncover the raw truth

behind one of the most painful aspects of human relationships. So without further ado,

let's meet today's guest. Today I am joined by Lisa. Lisa, it is lovely to welcome you to my show.

How are you today? Good, thank you. Thanks, Anna. Yeah, all good.

How do you feel coming on on my podcast to talk about something that in society, it's a bit of a taboo, right?

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, a lot of strange feelings talking about this it's not one that you want to be in but equally

I'm really happy to talk about it and I don't I think I'm really happy to talk about it in an

it's in an educational way the more we talk about things, the more

they become real, and it might help somebody else. And I think when you're in a really dire

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