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Things Fell Apart

S1. Ep 6: Many Different Lives

Things Fell Apart

BBC

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This story is about how the unique experiences of a little girl growing up unconventionally in America in the 1970s seismically changed the face of feminism in the 90s and beyond. It's a story too about the invention of a word - one that's contributed to a ferocious schism in the British culture wars.

Written and presented by Jon Ronson Produced by Sarah Shebbeare Original music by Phil Channell

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and maybe it's when I had a hand in.

0:04.0

I'm Tammy Walker and I produce podcasts for the BBC.

0:08.0

My role is to give new and diverse creators a voice with the opportunity to build a career.

0:12.0

That's the thing I love about podcasts.

0:14.4

You start with just a good idea, but then you have the space to see where it goes.

0:18.4

And doing that at the BBC means we can really run with the best stories

0:21.9

while developing the most unique audio talent.

0:24.8

So if you like what you hear, why not check out the huge range of podcast we've got on BBC Sounds.

0:31.6

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:35.0

From BBC Radio 4, this is Things Fell Apart.

0:39.0

Strange Tales from the Culture Wars.

0:42.0

I'm John Rodson, a writer living in America,

0:47.0

the land where Culture Wars Begin.

0:50.0

And by Culture Wars, I mean the battle for dominance between conflicting values.

0:55.6

These wars can obsess us and consume our lives.

0:59.5

I was curious to learn how things fell apart, and so I went back in history to find the origin stories,

1:06.0

the pebbles thrown in the pond, creating the ripples.

1:12.0

This story will end with what has become the most ferocious battle in today's British

1:19.0

Culture Wars, the battle over trans rights and over who counts as a woman.

1:25.0

Get her out of here, she is a task.

1:28.0

She is not here in solidarity with anybody.

1:31.0

Trans women are women.

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