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Master Plan

S1 E9: Going Big | Legalizing Corruption

Master Plan

The Lever & David Sirota

News, Politics, History

5.0592 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

An anti-abortion legal activist starts using the federal courts to chip away at campaign finance restrictions, setting his sights on the Supreme Court. Indiana lawyer James Bopp Jr. engineers the Citizens United case and hand-tailors it for Justice Anthony Kennedy’s storied swing vote — setting him up for an explosive 5-4 ruling that would devastate campaign finance law. Get ad-free Master Plan episodes by becoming a paid subscriber. Enjoy bonus episodes, exclusive content, and support this show. Visit masterplanpodcast.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Lever.

0:04.1

This is one of my favorites.

0:06.4

You know, to be on the front cover, the ABA Journal, you know, it's like being a rock star,

0:11.4

be on the front of the front of the world.

0:14.3

Yeah, it's like being an athlete on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

0:14.3

Exactly.

0:15.0

Exactly.

0:15.8

And.

0:16.4

This is attorney James Bop.

0:18.2

He's showing me all the memorabilia of his career scattered around

0:21.7

his wood-paneled office. There's a framed letter from Ronald Reagan. There's a photo of him with

0:26.7

Dick Cheney. And yes, there's him on the cover of the American Bar Association's magazine,

0:32.2

the ABA Journal, with the headline, The Big Bopper.

0:35.7

I've seen a written that you filed more campaign finance cases than anyone else.

0:40.4

Definitely.

0:41.5

More campaign finance cases than anyone else in the country.

0:46.1

My first big win in the Supreme Court was...

0:49.0

In the Minnesota case?

0:50.0

Yeah, right, the Minnesota case.

0:51.7

When we first reached out to Bob for an interview,

0:54.1

we figured we'd be heading to Bob for an interview,

0:55.8

we figured we'd be heading to meet him at some big fancy law office in Washington, D.C. or New York.

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