This is Broken, Jeffrey Epstein. I'm Ariel Levy. This week, reporter Julie K. Brown.

It was one of those kinds of careers where you started at the bottom.

Julie spoke with executive producer Adam Davidson about the long road from waiting tables to

becoming a star investigative reporter at the Miami Herald. And about how she was able to break one of 2018's biggest stories.

I'm a runner and I run a lot and one of my go-to run songs is a song by AC DC.

Coat, it's a long way to the top if you want a rock and roll. And really, it's been a long haul.

Hi, Adam.

Pay, are you?

So, Adam, this week you talk with Julie K. Brown, who's one of our executive producers on this show.

What made you want to do that?

Well, Julie, of course, is the Miami Herald reporter whose incredible series about Jeffrey Epstein almost exactly a year ago

is the reason his name was thrust into the public conversation. The reason we're pretty sure he was re-arrested and then ultimately killed himself.

The reason we're having this big national conversation, including this podcast, about how a man could just so blatantly and flagrantly commit such vile sexual crimes against children for so long.

And it all goes back to Julie.

And it all goes back to what I've learned about Julie, that Julie Brown has an amazing story in and of itself.

She really did not grow up with a lot of opportunity, thrust at her with an easy pathway.

And she worked hard her whole life doggedly, often in obscure back corners of journalism, but just focused, wouldn't take no for an answer.

And it made me realize that understanding Julie's story is part of this because it's because of who she is that she was the one who brought this story forward when so many others who received the benefits of our establishment look the other way, made accommodations to Epstein's wealth.

She's sort of the opposite of everyone else we know in journalism in New York, who's like gone to an Ivy League school and just had this direct path into the establishment really.

So tell me about that. The only thing I know about Julie's childhood from her Twitter bio is that she's crazy about Philadelphia.

Well, she is definitely crazy about Philadelphia, even though she lives in Miami and I live in New York, I feel like we talk about Philadelphia almost every time we talk.

Although she didn't grow up in Philadelphia, she grew up in an outer suburb called Sellersville. And that's what I asked her about when we sat down together.

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