Welcome to the Running Explain podcast. I'm Elizabeth, a marathoner, running coach, and answer seeker.

When I became a new runner at the age of 29, I had so many questions, but it felt like I was on my

own to figure all of the answers. So now I'm here to answer all your running questions to help make

you a better, smarter,

faster runner.

There's no question too simple and no topic too complex.

So let's get started.

My guest this week is Chris McClum.

Chris is the co-owner of Rogue Running based in Austin, Texas.

He is the host of the Running Rogue podcast, which is my favorite podcast about

running, as well as the co-host of the Clean Sport Collective podcast with Olympian Kara Goucher.

I am thrilled to have Chris on my show today. He is the guru of my easy running journey,

and we talk about pacing, easy running, race strategy,

and so much more. You are going to learn amazing things from this episode. Chris, welcome to the

show. I am so excited to have you here. I'm honored to be here. Thanks for having me.

So I'm going to say right off the bat for every listener out there

who is not yet listened to Chris's excellent podcast, the Running Rogue podcast. You need to go

and subscribe to it right now. Well, maybe not right now. Listen to this episode first and then go

find it and subscribe. But Chris, I want to hear before we dive into our very exciting topic today about you as a

runner, as a coach. Tell us how you ended up where you are. Well, it's a long story, but I'll

try to keep it brief. My running started at an early age as a soccer player. I grew up playing

soccer. That was my primary sport growing up from age five

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