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A rebirth is happening.

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So Richard and Francis, welcome along to the program.

Thanks.

Thank you.

It was happening.

The game was afoot.

In 2022, Richard Dawkins, one of the most prominent atheists of the 21st century, agreed to appear on the show I was then hosting The Big Conversation from Premier Unbelievable.

Despite some fleeting appearances in the past, I'd never had the opportunity to bring the famed biologist on for a proper interaction on science and faith.

Until now.

I'm really privileged to have you both on the same call and to be able to do this with you.

It's been a real dream come true bringing you together, so thank you both for being here.

This time he would be talking about his area of expertise in a long-form conversation on biology

and belief with another star of the scientific world, Francis Collins. Collins is every bit

the equal of Dawkins when it comes to biology. A famed geneticist, he led the Human Genome Project,

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