This is Dr. Pollock February 1969 with Sir Hanserhand interviewed by Dr. Diamond and also

Mr. Robert Kaiser.

Dr. Diamond would put Sirhand under hypnosis in the cell, give him a suggestion under hypnosis.

This is Robert Kaiser, a journalist who is in the room when defense and prosecution psychiatrists

hypnotize Sir Hanserhand.

Sirhand, when I bring you out of hypnosis you're going to feel very, very good, but when I take

out my handkerchief that will be a signal for you to climb the bars of your cell like a monkey.

All right now, Sirhand, you're going to be coming out of your deep sleep and when you wake

up you will feel very, very good.

And then five minutes later, Sirhand's climbing the bars of his cell like a monkey.

You look over at Diamond and he's been blowing his nose.

And Diamond says to Sirhand in front of me and the attorneys, Sirhand, what are you doing

up there?

Oh, I'm just getting some exercise, he says.

That was what he thought he was doing.

That's a plausible explanation.

Anyone that's under that influence will always give you a plausible explanation, but it won't

be the right one.

We all knew that he'd been programmed.

And neither Diamond nor the attorneys would listen to me for a moment when I suggested that

he may have been hypnotized and programmed to kill Kennedy under a hypnotic state.

Sirhand's original attorneys didn't buy the idea that he had been hypnotized and programmed

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