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And though this may be an uncomfortable conversation for the benefit of a court and for the record, where making it clear that this is not your quote, it's not the GBI's quote, this is a quote from a statement of Mr. Brian as to what he heard Travis McMichael say prior police arriving correct.

Very much so yes sir.

I'm Bill Rankin, Legal Affairs reporter for the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Welcome back to Breakdown and our continuing coverage of the fatal shooting of Ahmad Arbery on February 23rd near the coastal town of Brunswick, Georgia.

Where to begin?

When we last talked, Greg and Travis McMichael and Roddy Bryan have been arrested and charged with felony murder.

At that time, Ahmad Arbery's death was front and center on the national news.

Then came the videos of Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds.

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