S08.35: Sad Boys Who Punch Things with Veronica Roth
Fated Mates - Romance Books for Novel People
Fated Mates
4.9 • 965 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 92 minutes
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Summary
This week, we’re joined by one of the greatest, Veronica Roth, whose new book, Seek the Traitor’s Son, features one of her most beloved of tropes: Sad Boys Who Punch Things. We were delighted when she suggested we do an episode on this very particular, very delicious romance concept, and of course, we invited her to join us! We talk about how it works, why we love soft boys who are full of rage, and how we stan a hero who is willing to stand back and let his partner be awesome. We also talk about The West Wing & Ladyhawke (makes sense). And of course, we talk about her books!
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Our next read along is Seven Days in June by Tia Williams. Get it at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple Books, wherever you get your books, or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.
NOTES
Veronica Roth’s newest release is Seek the Traitor’s Son, the first in a dystopian fantasy duology with a strong romance subplot.
We love the follow sad boys: Toby Ziegler, Angel, Fox Mulder, Tobias from Animorphs, and Rutger Hauer from Ladyhawke.
The Sixth Faction is coming soon!
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Well, we are very excited today because we have our friend Veronica Roth with us. |
| 0:07.0 | Yay! |
| 0:07.9 | I have been obsessed with your books for a long time. |
| 0:11.4 | We've known each other. |
| 0:12.6 | Like, we've sort of danced around each other for a long time. |
| 0:16.4 | And finally, we have a book that has like a really strong romance running through it. |
| 0:23.0 | Yay. |
| 0:24.0 | Veronica, everybody, Veronica Roth likes a romance. |
| 0:27.3 | I can tell. |
| 0:29.6 | I do. |
| 0:30.5 | I really do. |
| 0:31.5 | You have When Among Crows behind you. |
| 0:33.2 | And I was obsessed with that book last year. |
| 0:36.1 | Like I read it multiple times. I gave it to my daughter. |
| 0:39.0 | Like, everybody, everybody I know has read this book because I, like, pressed it into people's hands. |
| 0:44.6 | But that's really romantic. Like, there's a really, like, sexy romance in that book, too. |
| 0:50.0 | And I feel like I'm so excited that we finally get to get you here and talk about romance. |
| 0:55.3 | Thank you for having me. |
| 0:56.2 | Yeah, I read a lot of romance. |
| 0:57.6 | So I've been obsessed with you for a long time. |
| 1:00.6 | And now we're here. |
| 1:01.7 | And now we're here. |
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