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Nobody Should Believe Me

S07 E10: The Stakes

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Society & Culture, True Crime, Personal Journals

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

As we close our season, we hear from two people whose lives were forever altered by child abuse; and in doing so examine what’s really at stake when the media misrepresents child abuse cases and the work of child abuse doctors.   Featuring: Tara Haelle, Science Journalist *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:06.0

Please note that this show discusses child abuse, which may be difficult for some listeners.

0:12.0

For resources about abusive head trauma, go to shakenbaby.org.

0:16.0

I want a better future for children and for their families.

0:24.8

And part of my dismay about the many media stories centering the medical kidnapping narrative

0:29.6

is that I know enough to see exactly how this type of advocacy is moving us further away from just that.

0:37.0

I will always be thorough in my reporting.

0:39.4

I'll always do my very best to be fair, but I will never be neutral. I'm here because I know the

0:45.5

stakes and because I believe that stories can move us in a way that statistics and data,

0:50.7

as valuable as those things are, will never do. We know the power of a story.

0:55.9

When I talk about vaccines, I've talked for years, I've given lots of keynote talks on how

1:00.9

you address vaccine hesitancy and how you counter it.

1:03.8

And the way you counter it is stories.

1:06.1

I'm a big believer in the anecdotal lead and the, you know, because that's what people understand.

1:13.0

And it's stories resonate in an emotional way with us. So if you want to actually convey

1:19.1

something that happened and, and help it connect with them in that logos, pathos, ethos way

1:26.1

of getting the pathos, you've got to tell a story.

1:29.4

And in this case, I needed a story that matched the kinds of stories that you hear where it's not

1:36.3

true, right? It's the seemingly nice middle-class family.

1:41.2

When Tara Haley was writing her piece on abusive head trauma, she knew she had the facts on her side, the scientific consensus, the peer-reviewed research, and the data.

1:49.9

But she also knew that leading with that would be bringing a knife to a gunfight.

1:54.3

She knew she needed to talk to someone who'd been there.

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