S07 E09: Who America Considers a Family
Nobody Should Believe Me
True Story Media
4.2 • 3.3K Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 80 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | True Story Media |
| 0:05.4 | Please note that this show discusses child abuse, which may be difficult for some listeners. |
| 0:11.6 | For resources about abusive head trauma, go to shakenbaby.org. |
| 0:20.4 | Despite the vast amounts of media attention it's received and the successful state legislative efforts it's inspired, |
| 0:26.6 | the problem of Capp's over-diagnosing child abuse is, as far as I can tell from my extensive research entirely invented. |
| 0:36.6 | Second opinion laws are put under the ever-popular guise of |
| 0:40.1 | protecting children, but it seems more likely that they will create an additional loophole for |
| 0:45.2 | parents like most of the ones featured in these stories, i.e. white families who can afford to pay |
| 0:50.7 | for high-powered attorneys and experts who explain away abusive injuries. |
| 0:55.0 | We really do like to dress things up this way in this country. From banning drag performances, |
| 0:59.0 | to banning books, to prohibiting teachers from discussing the existence of gay people in racism, |
| 1:05.0 | all things that don't actually harm children. But these things do make some adults really uncomfortable, as does the notion that the |
| 1:12.5 | state might remove the children of a middle-class white family. Child abuse pediatricians kidnapping |
| 1:18.1 | children is a made-up problem, that the media is treating like a real problem, all while ignoring |
| 1:23.4 | the people who are actually disenfranchised by the child welfare system. |
| 1:29.9 | Well, not everyone in the media is ignoring it. |
| 1:41.0 | I'm Roxanna Asgarian. I am an independent journalist who is focused on the child welfare and criminal legal systems. |
| 1:45.7 | I've written for a bunch of outlets, and I am the author of a book called We Were Once a Family. I read Roxanna's book years ago, and it really stuck with me. I've had listeners |
| 1:51.2 | recommend this book to me a number of times, and in one instance, someone told me I should read |
| 1:56.0 | it and my kicks and boss series, and this revealed something fascinating. The ways in which medical |
| 2:02.4 | kidnapping, a conspiracy theory with deep roots in the most extreme version of parents' rights, |
| 2:08.3 | is masquerading as a matter of social justice. But reporters like Mike Hicksinbaugh, who superficially |
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