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Nobody Should Believe Me

S07 E06: The Experts

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Society & Culture, True Crime, Personal Journals

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Child abuse pediatricians have become increasingly villainized in the media despite being among the most specialized and cautious doctors in child abuse medicine. Andrea looks at what these doctors actually do and why their role is so often misunderstood. Andrea also explores the rise of paid defense experts who offer alternative explanations in abuse cases that fall far outside the medical consensus.  Featuring Experts: Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney Dr. Jill Glick, Child Abuse Pediatrician *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:07.5

Please note that this show discusses child abuse, which may be difficult for some listeners.

0:12.2

For resources about abusive head trauma, go to shakenbaby.org.

0:20.0

Child abuse doctors have had a rough few years in the media.

0:23.6

From Take Care of Maya,

0:25.6

How many times are you allowed to be wrong and destroy lives

0:29.6

before they say, okay, that's enough?

0:31.6

These families walked in, hoping for help for their child,

0:36.6

and some of them walked out in handcuffs.

0:39.2

To my kicks and bogs do no harm series, which featured one of the families from Take Care of Maya,

0:44.4

and, of course, my sister, Megan Carter.

0:47.4

One minute, you know, I'm sitting there next to my daughter's bedside, and then the next

0:52.4

minute I'm being escorted out of the hospital.

0:55.0

King 5 and NBC News reviewed three other cases involving Woods and although other doctors

1:00.0

reached different conclusions, Dr. Woods found abuse and that led CPS to remove the children from the

1:06.0

homes.

1:07.0

It's been eight months since the Carter's reunited, and the days are still tough.

1:10.9

If somebody rings our doorbell, I'm scared to answer it because I don't know if it's going

1:16.1

to be somebody coming with more allegations and trying to take my kids away.

1:23.1

There was also the preventionist from serial productions.

1:26.1

I'm a mom who lost everything in less than 24 hours due to one doctor's misdiagnosis.

1:31.3

Enough is enough.

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