S07 E03: Two Steps

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Society & Culture, True Crime, Personal Journals

4.2 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. Featuring: Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician *** Vote for us for the Webby's People's Voice Award: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/best-indie-podcast Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	True Story Media.
0:07.5	Please note that this show discusses child abuse, which may be difficult for some listeners.
0:12.0	For resources about abusive head trauma, go to shakenbaby.org.
0:17.2	Mitch County 911 with the address to the emergency.
0:19.7	I've got a baby that's really sick here. He's coming in and out of consciousness.
0:22.6	Tell me exactly what happened to him. He's been sick. He's been running a fever. Okay, he's no fever. I get him some liquids. He threw it up and then now he's just rolling around. He's going in and out of consciousness. He's getting CPR given to him right now. Okay. Are you right there with him? right there with him?
0:35.6	I'm here with him, yes.
0:36.6	How old is a child?
0:37.6	He's a little over a year old.
0:38.6	One year old?
0:39.6	Yes, he's out. right now. Okay, are you right there with him? I'm here with him, yes. How old is a child? He's a little over a year old.
0:38.3	One year old?
0:39.3	Yes, he's out of, he's out, he's a little over a year old. Okay, did he have a seizure? He seems like he had almost had a seizure, yes. Okay, tell him to stop doing CPR if it's a seizure. Okay. Is he breathing? breathing? Is he breathing?
0:52.5	Is he breathing?
0:54.6	Yeah, clearly.
0:56.0	He's gasping.
0:58.0	He's in bad shape.
0:59.0	I understand I'm getting help on the way.
1:01.0	Try to stay calm.
1:02.0	That's the only way we can help him, okay?
1:04.0	All right.
1:05.0	On December 12, 2015, Nolan Kelly was taken to Manatee Memorial Hospital after his grandfather, Larry Crawford,
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