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S05E14 The Case of the Missing Thunderbird Photo

MonsterTalk

Monster House LLC

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, Science

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Blake and Karen discuss the legendary photo said to capture 19th century cowboys or soldiers with a giant bird or pterosaur.

SHOW NOTE LINKS:

The original Tombstone Epitaph article about the winged creature

Karl Shuker's blogged several times on the Thunderbird Photo and wrote a eulogy for Mark Chovinsky, author of a thorough Strange Magazine article about the Thunderbird photo.

Ivan T. Sanderson figures into the story prominently.  Kevin J. Guhl has written an extensive article about this.

I think all the researchers - the serious researchers - are converging on the "False Memory" hypothesis to explain this story. 

However, debates about the photo continue.

Some of the online photos were promotional photos for Freaky Links TV show.

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0:47.2

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0:50.6

Memory's a funny thing. We all rely on it to get by in the world our memories help us build

0:56.2

the library of narratives that we use to define ourselves to the world our ability to recall past

1:01.8

events help us navigate the present and plan for the future but memory is incredibly fallible

1:07.9

and malleable and our brains are prone to remember stuff that

1:12.3

simply never happened. Recently, you may recall the idea of the Mandela effect, which highlighted

1:18.8

how perplexed average people were to find out that some of their precious recollections

1:23.6

were simply wrong. Rather than chuckle at the realization, many people instead postulated that something

1:30.6

caused the world to change and that their own personal incorrect memories are the only

1:36.2

record of this reality fracture.

1:39.1

Now this is, on the face of it, incredibly self-aggrandizing.

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