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Nobody Should Believe Me

S04 Ep08: The Long Goodbye

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

True Crime, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Just as Jo has made huge personal strides in the spring of 2023, Donna slides into a coma and Jo returns to Hutchinson to say what they will believe to be their final goodbyes. However, even Donna’s “deathbed” isn’t what it seems, and she ends up pulling through: leaving Jo to manage the complicated process of setting boundaries with their mother after yet another dramatic brush with death.  Over the next year, Jo continues to thrive and heal their relationship with their sister: just in time for the two to receive a shocking phone call.   *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.4

Before we begin, a quick warning that in this show, we discuss child abuse, and this content may be difficult for some listeners.

0:14.7

If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse, please go to munchausensupport.com to connect with professionals who can help.

0:25.2

When you love someone like Joe's mom, Donna, or my sister Megan, it means that illness and death,

0:31.9

either theirs or that of their children, are just sort of constantly hanging around like this unwelcome house guest.

0:39.8

There is this fear that I hear from listeners sometimes, that their own anxious behaviors

0:44.7

around illness or around their children will make them seem like they're engaging in munchausen

0:49.9

behaviors. But what is hard to explain to people who haven't experienced this is just how all

0:55.7

consuming these behaviors actually are. It's an obsession that gets more intense over time,

1:01.4

and much like an addiction, the person has to keep upping the ante so that everything, the lying,

1:07.6

the illnesses, and the brushes with death get more extreme and more frequent.

1:12.5

And with Megan, this escalation meant going through a different kind of death. There's this

1:18.2

person that I remember from childhood. And yeah, looking back, especially talking to my parents

1:23.7

about their memories, the illness stuff, hers, her pets, that was always there too.

1:29.0

But when I look back at us as kids, there was a whole person there with hobbies and interests

1:34.3

and just other things about them other than this obsession with illness.

1:40.8

But that person disappeared over time. It was like her obsession was devouring her from the inside.

1:48.0

And by the end, the sister I said goodbye to 14 years ago, she was a shell of the person I'd once known.

1:55.0

And now, I have no idea.

1:57.0

And the person I've read about in the police reports about her daughter, the accounts I've

2:02.0

listened to from people who were there, I still have trouble reconciling that person

2:06.6

with the person I grew up with. One thing I know, the Meg and I loved, she's gone. Today, we're

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